Vanessa @ k604 - TOFTT

Saw Vanessa earlier today, truly a TOFTT. Photos aren't her, obviously. F: 6 - Average Ukrainian woman (no, she's not Russian), could probably be a cute GND if she wasn't overweight. Mid to late twenties, probably. B: 5 - Overweight, with very notable belly fat, not a few days unshaved sharp buzz, all natural otherwise. Not tight at all - I am what I would consider above average, and could barely feel anything. Otherwise clean, without any odd smells or anything. S: 6 - No shower action, gives a mean bbbj, tries to be accommodating, but puts no effort to set the mood, and is very mechanical otherwise. Has a simple routine, including a cat bath. A: 5 - Seems to be fluent (or at least capable), she's lived here for a few years now. Speaks in fast and short bursts. Mostly straight to business, with only seemingly being more engaged if you gossip or talk shit about other people. Definitely not worth the premium tag.

skimpyfox said: Saw Vanessa earlier today, truly a TOFTT. Photos aren't her, obviously. F: 6 - Average Ukrainian woman (no, she's not Russian), could probably be a cute GND if she wasn't overweight. Mid to late twenties, probably. B: 5 - Overweight, with very notable belly fat, not a few days unshaved sharp buzz, all natural otherwise. Not tight at all - I am what I would consider above average, and could barely feel anything. Otherwise clean, without any odd smells or anything. S: 6 - No shower action, gives a mean bbbj, tries to be accommodating, but puts no effort to set the mood, and is very mechanical otherwise. Has a simple routine, including a cat bath. A: 5 - Seems to be fluent (or at least capable), she's lived here for a few years now. Speaks in fast and short bursts. Mostly straight to business, with only seemingly being more engaged if you gossip or talk shit about other people. Definitely not worth the premium tag. Click to expand... Thanks for this. She looked too good to be true, and it turns out, she is. Props for taking the hit.

BartonFink said: Thanks for this. She looked too good to be true, and it turns out, she is. Props for taking the hit. Click to expand... Happy to be of service 🫡

skimpyfox said: Saw Vanessa earlier today, truly a TOFTT. Photos aren't her, obviously. F: 6 - Average Ukrainian woman (no, she's not Russian), could probably be a cute GND if she wasn't overweight. Mid to late twenties, probably. B: 5 - Overweight, with very notable belly fat, not a few days unshaved sharp buzz, all natural otherwise. Not tight at all - I am what I would consider above average, and could barely feel anything. Otherwise clean, without any odd smells or anything. S: 6 - No shower action, gives a mean bbbj, tries to be accommodating, but puts no effort to set the mood, and is very mechanical otherwise. Has a simple routine, including a cat bath. A: 5 - Seems to be fluent (or at least capable), she's lived here for a few years now. Speaks in fast and short bursts. Mostly straight to business, with only seemingly being more engaged if you gossip or talk shit about other people. Definitely not worth the premium tag. Click to expand... Sorry for your loss. Premium tag for belly fat. Ouch.. [:cry:]

Beasting said: Sorry for your loss. Premium tag for belly fat. Ouch.. [:cry:] Click to expand... Belly fat is the ultimate turn-off.

BartonFink said: Belly fat is the ultimate turn-off. Click to expand... There's absolutely no excuse at that price point. For a provider that's literally your job to be in shape..put down the fork and hit the gym.

Beasting said: There's absolutely no excuse at that price point. For a provider that's literally your job to be in shape..put down the fork and hit the gym. Click to expand... Agreed. It's unacceptable.

skimpyfox said: Saw Vanessa earlier today, truly a TOFTT. Photos aren't her, obviously. F: 6 - Average Ukrainian woman (no, she's not Russian), could probably be a cute GND if she wasn't overweight. Mid to late twenties, probably. B: 5 - Overweight, with very notable belly fat, not a few days unshaved sharp buzz, all natural otherwise. Not tight at all - I am what I would consider above average, and could barely feel anything. Otherwise clean, without any odd smells or anything. S: 6 - No shower action, gives a mean bbbj, tries to be accommodating, but puts no effort to set the mood, and is very mechanical otherwise. Has a simple routine, including a cat bath. A: 5 - Seems to be fluent (or at least capable), she's lived here for a few years now. Speaks in fast and short bursts. Mostly straight to business, with only seemingly being more engaged if you gossip or talk shit about other people. Definitely not worth the premium tag. Click to expand... Thanks for toftt. Perhaps they thought you were ok with bellies like last time ? https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/toftt-not-great-no-modori-k604.384904/post-2783336

taster said: Thanks for toftt. Perhaps they thought you were ok with bellies like last time ? https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/toftt-not-great-no-modori-k604.384904/post-2783336 Click to expand... I don't get the logic here. Assumptive reasoning. Address this review and its merits. If you've seen her and disagree, then say so. Otherwise, how is this helpful at all?

BartonFink said: I don't get the logic here. Assumptive reasoning. Address this review and its merits. If you've seen her and disagree, then say so. Otherwise, how is this helpful at all? Click to expand... I can't speak for OP if he complained to shop about previous sp with belly so perhaps they didn't think he would mind. I already thanked him for tofft and hit the like button. Why would I have seen her already and thanked him for tofft ??

skimpyfox said: Saw Vanessa earlier today, truly a TOFTT. Photos aren't her, obviously. F: 6 - Average Ukrainian woman (no, she's not Russian), could probably be a cute GND if she wasn't overweight. Mid to late twenties, probably. B: 5 - Overweight, with very notable belly fat, not a few days unshaved sharp buzz, all natural otherwise. Not tight at all - I am what I would consider above average, and could barely feel anything. Otherwise clean, without any odd smells or anything. S: 6 - No shower action, gives a mean bbbj, tries to be accommodating, but puts no effort to set the mood, and is very mechanical otherwise. Has a simple routine, including a cat bath. A: 5 - Seems to be fluent (or at least capable), she's lived here for a few years now. Speaks in fast and short bursts. Mostly straight to business, with only seemingly being more engaged if you gossip or talk shit about other people. Definitely not worth the premium tag. Click to expand... I'm pretty sure she's at nightowl69 and the shop owner said she is in her 30s and ukrainian.

taster said: I can't speak for OP if he complained to shop about previous sp with belly so perhaps they didn't think he would mind. I already thanked him for tofft and hit the like button. Why would I have seen her already and thanked him for tofft ?? Click to expand... This is what I mean about assumptive reasoning. Why would any agency think any guy has a preference for a belly? In fact, most interactions between agencies and Johns involve a John requesting a girl based on a profile. Two separate instances with an implicit logic overlayed onto it. Gambler's fallacy. So again, I ask: what did your little detail contribute to the thread?

taster said: Thanks for toftt. Perhaps they thought you were ok with bellies like last time ? https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/toftt-not-great-no-modori-k604.384904/post-2783336 Click to expand... I don't think they care or even think that far. With k604 they never mention any negatives when you ask them, so it's always a yolo. I find with them, if you find a good one, it's better to ATF for as much as you can.

taster said: I can't speak for OP if he complained to shop about previous sp with belly so perhaps they didn't think he would mind. I already thanked him for tofft and hit the like button. Why would I have seen her already and thanked him for tofft ?? Click to expand... I make sure to give fair and honest feedback after every session, but not all agencies take it seriously. NO69 has been great with feedback though. For reference, I definitely prefer spinners and washboards over hogs.

BartonFink said: This is what I mean about assumptive reasoning. Why would any agency think any guy has a preference for a belly? In fact, most interactions between agencies and Johns involve a John requesting a girl based on a profile. Two separate instances with an implicit logic overlayed onto it. Gambler's fallacy. So again, I ask: what did your little detail contribute to the thread? Click to expand... Let's be honest, there are definitely guys into a bit of a chonk. Reading reviews here, what some folks define as "curvy" is... well... a bit more than that.

skimpyfox said: Let's be honest, there are definitely guys into a bit of a chonk. Reading reviews here, what some folks define as "curvy" is... well... a bit more than that. Click to expand... Fair. I suppose I just took umbrage with his reasoning. You reviewed a girl, and he tried to assume a pattern based on a previous negative review. That's dishonest. 'Curvy, ' in my opinion, just means fat. Spinners all the way.

BartonFink said: Fair. I suppose I just took umbrage with his reasoning. You reviewed a girl, and he tried to assume a pattern based on a previous negative review. That's dishonest. 'Curvy, ' in my opinion, just means fat. Spinners all the way. Click to expand... Preach

skimpyfox said: Saw Vanessa earlier today, truly a TOFTT. Photos aren't her, obviously. F: 6 - Average Ukrainian woman (no, she's not Russian), could probably be a cute GND if she wasn't overweight. Mid to late twenties, probably. B: 5 - Overweight, with very notable belly fat, not a few days unshaved sharp buzz, all natural otherwise. Not tight at all - I am what I would consider above average, and could barely feel anything. Otherwise clean, without any odd smells or anything. S: 6 - No shower action, gives a mean bbbj, tries to be accommodating, but puts no effort to set the mood, and is very mechanical otherwise. Has a simple routine, including a cat bath. A: 5 - Seems to be fluent (or at least capable), she's lived here for a few years now. Speaks in fast and short bursts. Mostly straight to business, with only seemingly being more engaged if you gossip or talk shit about other people. Definitely not worth the premium tag. Click to expand... This is very alarming, as the website advertises her as a super young model with super hot slim body!!!!

shooting star said: This is very alarming, as the website advertises her as a super young model with super hot slim body!!!! Click to expand... Nightowl handler was honest.

Bobessence said: Nightowl handler was honest. Click to expand... He is a cool dude 😄