"Selena" (or "Celina") - New Star Health Center (E. Hastings between Boundary Rd. and Hwy. 1)

A tattoo'd Thai that upsells to a ludicrous degree! [No Leolist advertisement] Phone: 604-780-6268 Date of Visit: February 2026 Location: New Star Health Centre, 3468 E. Hastings (Hastings, between Boundary Rd. and Highway 1. It is one of the businesses on the ground floor of the condo development immediately East of the McDonalds restaurant right at Hastings and the Highway). Type of Service: Asian Massage Parlor. New Star has 5 or 6 rooms (not sure). Each room has a shower. At least the two bigger rooms have their own own bathroom with a door and a toilet - but the shower is out in the larger room, not in the bathroom. Generally 4-9 ladies on shift. Open 10:00AM to 10:00PM. Rates: It is 200 for 1hr. FS, however, it seems that the ladies can ask for whatever they want for extras and this particular lady took that to a laughable extreme. BBBJ was +$100, and "suck my boobs or my pussy" was +$80. Not both "boobs and pussy," but one or the other. [:ROFLMAO:] Seriously. I paid $200 + $180. I was "o.k." with that, as a one-time experience, but even as I was "negotiating" extras, I was thinking to myself, "Lady, you do not know what you are doing here. You are about $100 to $120 over market rates here and, while I will pay that, you are not "winning" with this. Within about a month, 5 to 6 thousand unique sets of eyeballs, most of whom are AMP customers, will have read all about this, and this will be the most consequential $120 upsell of your career. But, hey. we all get to make our own decisions in this life, right? She makes hers. I make mine. I am not really "butt hurt" about the rates. I have money. And, actually, this was a really hot experience. I think this is more of a... people deserve to "know before they go" situation. That is what I am doing here. This is "Episode 3" for me at New Star. The previous two can be found here: "Miya" - https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/miy...astings-between-boundary-rd-and-hwy-1.389184/ "April" - https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/apr...astings-between-boundary-rd-and-hwy-1.389221/ My Third Trip to New Star: I was thinking about doing something fun the last few days, so I decided to stop in at New Star on the way home. As I was saying before, I strongly recommend parking on Pender Street, which is a quiet residential street in this part of Vancouver, just South of Hastings. There are always parking spots less than 200 meters from the street entrance to New Star. I walk in, little Annie is behind the counter. She seems to recognize me right away, despite not visiting since September. "Oh, hi. Nice to see you again" she says. I follow her past the curtain and this time we turn left at the girls "bullpen" room and go down the little hallway that inclines up a bit as you go East. At the end of that hallway are two rooms that I have never been in before. One is marked "1" and the one she puts me in is marked "KING" on the door in "hardware store sticker-letters." This room is nice and big. Similar to the big room from my "Miya" New Star Review, but with a lower ceiling this time. It has a great big built in cube shower, with instructions written on the wall in English and Chinese about how to turn it on (seriously). There is a massage bed in the middle of the room, a kind of counter with a mirror and some storage for towels, and then a bathroom with a toilet and door beyond that. There is enough floor space that, in many AMP's, they would cut this room in half with a cardboard wall and double the capacity. Annie asks how long I want to stay. "One hour. $200, right?" ... "Yes. You want to see everyone?" ... "Yes. How many are there today." .... "Uhhh.... just three, I think." ... "Okay." She brings the ladies by. First one: "Elise." I would bet money on her being PRC Chinese. Small. Skinny. Shoulder length hair. White bra and panties. I saw her tiny flat butt as she turned to walk away. I actually like what I saw here. I'll probably go back. She had "submission" in her eyes. I should have gone with her. Damn! I fucked up again on the line-up. Next girl... doesn't say her name. Say your name please ladies. What are we supposed to tell Mamasan otherwise, "I'll take number 2?" Will they start carrying around "ping-pong paddle" signs with numbers? [:ROFLMAO:] Like in China and Thailand. Anyway, her name is "Lisa." I ask, and make sure I am hearing her right. Short, 5' foot nothing Philippina lady with very long hair. Darker skin tone. Natural boobs. Natural look. I actually like what I see here as well. Third lady... struts in. Shoulders back, pushing a set of fake tits forward in a skin tight black cocktail dress. Confidence. Swagger. Small tight body. Light brown skin tone. Bleach blond hair in a "Jennifer Aniston" cut. Name... "Selena." Okay, I've seen enough. I tell Annie "Selena" when she comes back. I should have gone counter to my instincts. I went with confidence, swagger, and a protruding set of fake tits! [:ROFLMAO:] Fuck! Thinking this through rationally (which I wasn't) the better service would clearly have been with the other two girls that had a lack of confidence (wanting to be picked, but doubting it will happen), and a look of submission in their eyes. Fuck. I picked the hot chick... that knows it. Anyway. Annie shows me how to turn on the shower (despite it being written on the wall, you pull it out to start it), and she gets me a towel out the towel rack by the mirror. I strip off, shower, put the towel around my waist and sit on the side of the bed. I never really like to lay face down and wait, as I want to watch the lady as she comes in. A coupe of minutes later, she knocks and comes in. I always hope for situations where the woman comes in, walks right up between my legs, as I'm sitting on the bed and starts kissing me. This is not one of those situations. She asks if I want a massage. I say "sure" and lay face down. She says to "get rid of this" (the towel) and she pulls it off by getting me to roll one way, and then the other. She gets up on the bed and completely mounts my ass, as I can feel the bare skin of her inner thighs against me, but not her pussy, as she is still wearing panties. Her massage is just her rubbing oil around on my back, upper arms and neck. Feels good, but nothing special. Her English is very, very good. Fully conversant, to the point that I can't place her accent - and usually I am "deadly" at that. It is practically one of my hobbies. I ask if she is Chinese. "No, Thai." ... "Oh wow. I would never have gotten that from your voice. From Bangkok?" ... "Yes." Turns out he has been in Canada for 10 years (makes sense) and claims to have worked at New Star for just 3 weeks. She asks if I have been here before, I tell her, "Yes, twice before, but back in September." (I should have told her, I am in here all the time, and I don't overpay! [:LOL:] ) I start turning over after a few minutes. "You don't want massage?" ... "No. I'm good." I get up so that I am sitting on the side of the bed. She has her feet on the floor now and is standing between my legs. Looking at her face close-up, she is highly and meticulously made-up... such that she is actually "shiny." Not a total "butter face," but enough that you can just tell that she is not going to want you to fuck up her make-up, [:ROFLMAO:] and sure enough, she doesn't kiss. She turns her head at all opportunities. She is pretty though, and she does, however, kiss (and tongue) my ear repeatedly, and is okay with me doing the same. I get my hands on her ass, and it feels amazing, toned, pulling her into me. Her body is pretty top-notch by 40-something AMP standards. She asks, "You want to do blow-job no condom?" ... "Sure." ... "Okay, it is 100." ... So, that is a bit disappointing. I think market rates are $40, maybe $60 for a somewhat premium (by AMP standards) lady. Then she asks, "You want suck my boobs or my pussy?" ... "Okay, sure." ...."Which one?" ... I am thinking WTF? "Pussy," I say... "Okay 180 then." At this point, I am thinking, Okay we have to get this sorted out. "What is the total then? 200 + 180? For blow-job without condom, suck your pussy and sex?" ... "Yes." ... I knew I only brought $320 with me, thinking that would be plenty. I tell her I only have $320. " ... "Oh, that is o.k. You can pay by machine." ... "Okay. Let's do it at the end" (for reference, I am showing her the bills and my wallet with cards in it, and I am naked at this point with a rock-hard dick) ... "Uh... can I get you to pay first. Just this first time. Then I will trust you." At this point, two things are going through my head: (1) I am going to try and preserve this, and have the best, hottest, experience I can today, even if I have to overpay a bit; and (2) The idea that there would EVER be a "next time" for this nonsense is fucking laughable. Quite the opposite. This is a "one time" experience, and about 5,000+ of my perb brothers are going to read and have access to exactly what happened here for YEARS to come. Upsell like this at your own peril, ladies. We have our own network on the guy's side. She calls for Annie to come into the room with a portable payment machine (I am not even joking, I wish I was), and I - with a towel half falling off my waist and a hard-on, put another $60 on my card as Annie hands me the machine. Fortunately, Annie is cool, and I am not really shy. This is bullshit though. Treating a good customer like me in this way... deserves calling out like this. Anyway, Annie, goes away and we get back to work. In fairness, "Selena" did "come alive" a fair bit more at this point (and why not, with $180 tip!). Still no kissing, but she is quite passionate , tonguing and biting my ear, touching my nipples and letting me pull her into me (as I am sitting on the bed) as my dick pushes against her flat stomach. She takes her skin-tight black dress off, revealing nice pair of round implant boobies - "C" cup - which are quite soft and nice to touch - and white panties, which she also removes. I can see that she has lot of tattoos. More on that later. She drops to a squat and bedside and takes my dick in her mouth. She is legitimately very, very skilled in sucking dick. Full eye contact. Excellent push-pull with the mouth while simultaneously twisting with one hand. I actually change positions after a couple of minutes and lay down on the bed to give myself a temporary break from her good technique. I DEFINITELY don't want to bust early here. I am going to get my money's worth in pounding her snatch! She gets up on the bed, her head toward my feet, both of her knees on my left side, and she sucks me like that for awhile. I can touch her boobs and pussy all I want as she is doing that. In touching her pussy she says, "Just play outside, okay? Play on the outside of my pussy." Okay no problem. She then swings her leg over me and I finally get the full back-view of her luscious brown Thai snatch (that I am paying $80 to suck on [:LOL:] ). We are in a 69, and I feast on her pussy like that She tasted clean and fresh, and it was pretty heavenly, to be honest. Small, tight little brown bum, with a smooth, shaved brown pussy between her legs, as she is working my bare dick with her mouth in a very skilled way. I am sucking on her clit and her lips, working her 'button" with my tongue and even getting my tongue inside a bit. She is good with all of that. As she is sucking me, I actually start to think, okay I need to break this off again or I am going to bust. I move to stand up, and she gets off me. "You want fuck now?" ... "Yes," ... She gets the condom she had put on the bed earlier and puts it on. She only gets it onto the head, and then asks me to help her, as she has long fingernails and "I don't want to hurt you." (I have a rather thick dick, and it can be hard sometime to get the condom to roll off the head onto the shaft, so I just do that myself). She asks what position I want, and I just gently push her onto her back on the bed, as she is already between my legs with her back to the bed. Now I can see her tattoos clearly. She has a large flower on her upper right leg, and then some kind of design (floral, I think) going across her lower stomach/pubic region, around her belly button, something on her lower left arm, and others. Her luscious brown "outtie" pussy lips look fantastic. Nice thick brown lips. Pretty tight tummy, and overall body, for a roughly 40 year old. Way up in the upper range of good bodies by AMP standards. Her boobs also look nice in this position, as I push my dick into her. Wide areola, with protruding nipples that are soft and pliable.... i.e. the nipples always fold over as you touch them, not hard pencil erasers. She takes a good pounding. I wasn't going to be rough, but I was going to find out how much she likes to fuck hard, and on a positive note, she can take it hard and long, and she likes it. [(y)] No question in my mind. I start out by cupping her boobs as I pump her, but once we get going I hold her hips and butt - pulling her closer to the edge of the bed - and really lay into her. No problems with her holding back at all, she is liking it. I turn her on her side, me still standing at bed side, and I fuck her in that "fetal" position. I try to turn her the next "quarter-turn" over (to her stomach), but we lose the penetration. She stands up and I enter her doggy from behind. Initially it almost slides into (or at least toward) her asshole, and she says "no" and directs it in herself. From this position, I lock my hands onto her hips and pound her hard. In my head I am thinking, "It is time to get my money's worth here!" [:LOL:] Fortunately, she is actually into it. I move my hands to her shoulders and pull her in hard as I pound. She is vocalizing now. Then I pull her in, and push her down into the bed with my body weight, but she is with me all the way. She can fuck. I give her credit for that. She is telling me now, "You so strong." I tell her I want her up on her knees on top of the bed, and she does that. I get up behind her on my knees and enter in doggy... again she does the "no" thing with her ass, even though I am not trying to do that, it is just that her body geometry is lower than mine. Once we get going I resume pounding hard. I am starting to drip sweat, so I grab the towel that is partially under her, and towel off my face. I am thinking about getting up in the "full porno" position (up on my feet in doggie, up on top of the bed) but right at that moment she starts to drop forward into "lazy doggie" (she is on her stomach) as I ride her butt. This is nice though. In this position, I feel that I am able to get my legs wide apart and really "drop bombs" on her from behind, "Unh.. Unh.. Unh.." I interlock fingers with her on one hand, and kiss her shoulders and the back off her head. I don't really like to cum in condoms, although I could have done it here. I break off... and I am ready for her to just jack me off. She gets up and I lay on my back. However, she must have been thinking that I wanted her to get on top though, so I think, "Great idea. Come on up. I can go for a long time with condoms, it is excellent BBBJ technique that gets me in trouble early sometimes (see my Mansion One "Sandy" review). She gets on and rides cowgirl. Now she is really dropping "bombs" on me, and I help her by boosting her up with my hands, and then pulling her down. Smack! She is a good fucker, and can really take it. I was starting to see some involuntary orgasmic signs (shuddering), but I have enough experience with women to know that she didn't "get there," but she was enjoying the hardness of it all. No doubt about that. Maybe that is the secret with her. Just pay for the fucking, skip the extras? Unlike many... she can fuck hard. I was also sometimes cupping her tits with both hands as she rides. Nice view. A good long pound session all-round. When I start to feel like I could cum again, I ask her to get off and to jack me to conclusion. She gets her oil bottle, stands at bedside, and pours a ton of that stuff on my dick. Her hand-job technique is good. She will work it with both hands at the same time, and then cup and rub my balls with one hand while jacking with the other. I tell her, "You can touch me here," but she says "no ass." She lets me keep my hand wedged between her legs as she stands at bedside, feeling her wet pussy against the side of my hand. My legs start to shake a bit... this goes on for another minute or two ... more shaking.... and then it shoots ... Shhhooooo..... Another "healthy living" eruption shoots straight up, getting a reaction from her. "Wow. You shoot so much.... just like firework..... you so strong." She also says, "finally." Not really in a bitchy way but.... uhhh.... not the best comment. She tells me, "I think one hour not enough for you. You could fuck for one hour and half." True. I've heard this before. I practically pride myself on it. I gave her a long hard pound-down though, it felt good inside her and, on that basis, it was a good experience. Her approach to the money stuff was just inexcusable though. She says, "You take a rest. I use the shower." ... I am pretty spent, and just lay there, listening to the shower run. She is out in a couple of minutes and then says, "You shower now." She comes to peak through the shower curtain and says "goodbye" with a smile and goes out. That was the last I saw of her. I towel off and start getting dressed. There is a knock at the door. It's Annie. "Everything okay? Service good?" ... "Yah, the service was good. It is just way overpriced. 180 on top of 200? That is ridiculous. At her age, and her looks. That is just way too much. At that rate, I could get a lot more than that elsewhere." I normally don't throw people under the bus like that, but this is an exception. Annie just looks at me with a kind of uncertainty/"oops" look. "Oh..... so sorry. I didn't know. We have other girls that you may like better." I just tell her, "Yah, no. It's not your fault. She is just way overcharging. I will come back and see other girls, but I would never consider repeating with her." Recommend: Well... my comments to Annie really say it all.... it was a good experience.... however. Her BBBJ is truly excellent, and she can fuck like someone that actually likes a guy to pound her long and hard. That was all really good... but that money thing.... upselling me to 3 times the going rate for tips (the competition are all $220/hr. A generous tip would be $60. So $280. This was $380) .... not "trusting" me.... bringing Annie into the fucking room while I am naked with a hard-on..... are you fucking kidding me? No thanks. If she could get her shit sorted out, and her rates standardized with reality, she could be a real "star" provider and have tons of regulars, even without kissing. But the way it was for me today: HARD PASS!

andmac said: BBBJ was +$100, and "suck my boobs or my pussy" was +$80. Not both "boobs and pussy," but one or the other. [:ROFLMAO:] Seriously. I paid $200 + $180. I was "o.k." with that, as a one-time experience, but even as I was "negotiating" extras, I was thinking to myself, "Lady, you do not know what you are doing here. Click to expand... Many Asian ladies at some of these spa’s ( not all ) but more the flashes in the pan seem to have the milk em for everything , business mindset , a mind set that is more embedded in the culture in one specific part of Asia , which happens to be where most of the woman who go by this business plan are from . New star was really housing a small handful of Viet beauties and service queens there recently , sounds like most of them have gone back or moved on . Guess I missed my chance .

andmac said: Still no kissing, Click to expand... This is laughable

Once you go black said: Many Asian ladies at some of these spa’s ( not all ) but more the flashes in the pan seem to have the milk em for everything , business mindset , a mind set that is more embedded in the culture in one specific part of Asia , which happens to be where most of the woman who go by this business plan are from . New star was really housing a small handful of Viet beauties and service queens there recently , sounds like most of them have gone back or moved on . Guess I missed my chance . Click to expand... Yah, I mean... honestly... while "Selena" (or "Celina") can take a hard pounding in the snatch.... so can a lot of other woman... it just isn't enough. Her attitude sucks. While I can blame myself a bit for picking a "stuck up hot Chick," I shouldn't do that. She should be providing standard service levels at standard AMP prices, or work as an independent escort and charge whatever she wants. Why did I pay? Because I was trying to salvage a hot experience, which I think I did. If I made a fuss over the money, and tried to stop the session, get a different girl, etc. ... it would have been worse, and no less expensive. This was just a... "get the best experience you can" and then get out, and get the word out. "Selena" is a rip-off. The word is out. My next experience after this was "Bobo at Yifeng Massage" and... it just really reinforces to me that... there are lots of women that can take a hard pounding from a thick dick... and kiss... and build good chemistry in the session... and treat you with respect.... and just provide much better value for money. If "Selena" and "Bobo" charged the same price.... even with the lack of kissing with "Selena" ... it would still be ballpark acceptable in my view. But "Selena" was $110 more: $380 vs. $270. I just think that is inexcusable. She is no better looking than "Bobo" (and far less attractive than say... Mansion One "Sandy"), was clearly older than "Bobo," and while her BBBJ, fucking and handjob were all good.... yah... just "no." One time only. I have been to New Star three times now... and... while I "want" to like them.. there is always a bit of a problem for me. "Miya" ... no BBBJ. "April" .... wrapped her hand around my cock and limited penetration at all times during FS.... and 'Selena" ... no kissing and a laughable upsell. Where all the hot, slutty, Vietnamese service queens are... or have gone? .... I would like to know that too! A brother let me know after this review went up, that "Lisa" is actually another Thai, not Fillipina, and that she is quite a firecracker if she likes you. It sounds promising but... I am exploring "Yifeng Massage" now, and I will be trying "Spa Paradise" soon... so you guys will hear all about it. In detail ( [:p] )... as is my way.

andmac said: A tattoo'd Thai that upsells to a ludicrous degree! [No Leolist advertisement] Phone: 604-780-6268 Date of Visit: February 2026 Location: New Star Health Centre, 3468 E. Hastings (Hastings, between Boundary Rd. and Highway 1. It is one of the businesses on the ground floor of the condo development immediately East of the McDonalds restaurant right at Hastings and the Highway). Type of Service: Asian Massage Parlor. New Star has 5 or 6 rooms (not sure). Each room has a shower. At least the two bigger rooms have their own own bathroom with a door and a toilet - but the shower is out in the larger room, not in the bathroom. Generally 4-9 ladies on shift. Open 10:00AM to 10:00PM. Rates: It is 200 for 1hr. FS, however, it seems that the ladies can ask for whatever they want for extras and this particular lady took that to a laughable extreme. BBBJ was +$100, and "suck my boobs or my pussy" was +$80. Not both "boobs and pussy," but one or the other. [:ROFLMAO:] Seriously. I paid $200 + $180. I was "o.k." with that, as a one-time experience, but even as I was "negotiating" extras, I was thinking to myself, "Lady, you do not know what you are doing here. You are about $100 to $120 over market rates here and, while I will pay that, you are not "winning" with this. Within about a month, 5 to 6 thousand unique sets of eyeballs, most of whom are AMP customers, will have read all about this, and this will be the most consequential $120 upsell of your career. But, hey. we all get to make our own decisions in this life, right? She makes hers. I make mine. I am not really "butt hurt" about the rates. I have money. And, actually, this was a really hot experience. I think this is more of a... people deserve to "know before they go" situation. That is what I am doing here. This is "Episode 3" for me at New Star. The previous two can be found here: "Miya" - https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/miy...astings-between-boundary-rd-and-hwy-1.389184/ "April" - https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/apr...astings-between-boundary-rd-and-hwy-1.389221/ My Third Trip to New Star: I was thinking about doing something fun the last few days, so I decided to stop in at New Star on the way home. As I was saying before, I strongly recommend parking on Pender Street, which is a quiet residential street in this part of Vancouver, just South of Hastings. There are always parking spots less than 200 meters from the street entrance to New Star. I walk in, little Annie is behind the counter. She seems to recognize me right away, despite not visiting since September. "Oh, hi. Nice to see you again" she says. I follow her past the curtain and this time we turn left at the girls "bullpen" room and go down the little hallway that inclines up a bit as you go East. At the end of that hallway are two rooms that I have never been in before. One is marked "1" and the one she puts me in is marked "KING" on the door in "hardware store sticker-letters." This room is nice and big. Similar to the big room from my "Miya" New Star Review, but with a lower ceiling this time. It has a great big built in cube shower, with instructions written on the wall in English and Chinese about how to turn it on (seriously). There is a massage bed in the middle of the room, a kind of counter with a mirror and some storage for towels, and then a bathroom with a toilet and door beyond that. There is enough floor space that, in many AMP's, they would cut this room in half with a cardboard wall and double the capacity. Annie asks how long I want to stay. "One hour. $200, right?" ... "Yes. You want to see everyone?" ... "Yes. How many are there today." .... "Uhhh.... just three, I think." ... "Okay." She brings the ladies by. First one: "Elise." I would bet money on her being PRC Chinese. Small. Skinny. Shoulder length hair. White bra and panties. I saw her tiny flat butt as she turned to walk away. I actually like what I saw here. I'll probably go back. She had "submission" in her eyes. I should have gone with her. Damn! I fucked up again on the line-up. Next girl... doesn't say her name. Say your name please ladies. What are we supposed to tell Mamasan otherwise, "I'll take number 2?" Will they start carrying around "ping-pong paddle" signs with numbers? [:ROFLMAO:] Like in China and Thailand. Anyway, her name is "Lisa." I ask, and make sure I am hearing her right. Short, 5' foot nothing Philippina lady with very long hair. Darker skin tone. Natural boobs. Natural look. I actually like what I see here as well. Third lady... struts in. Shoulders back, pushing a set of fake tits forward in a skin tight black cocktail dress. Confidence. Swagger. Small tight body. Light brown skin tone. Bleach blond hair in a "Jennifer Aniston" cut. Name... "Selena." Okay, I've seen enough. I tell Annie "Selena" when she comes back. I should have gone counter to my instincts. I went with confidence, swagger, and a protruding set of fake tits! [:ROFLMAO:] Fuck! Thinking this through rationally (which I wasn't) the better service would clearly have been with the other two girls that had a lack of confidence (wanting to be picked, but doubting it will happen), and a look of submission in their eyes. Fuck. I picked the hot chick... that knows it. Anyway. Annie shows me how to turn on the shower (despite it being written on the wall, you pull it out to start it), and she gets me a towel out the towel rack by the mirror. I strip off, shower, put the towel around my waist and sit on the side of the bed. I never really like to lay face down and wait, as I want to watch the lady as she comes in. A coupe of minutes later, she knocks and comes in. I always hope for situations where the woman comes in, walks right up between my legs, as I'm sitting on the bed and starts kissing me. This is not one of those situations. She asks if I want a massage. I say "sure" and lay face down. She says to "get rid of this" (the towel) and she pulls it off by getting me to roll one way, and then the other. She gets up on the bed and completely mounts my ass, as I can feel the bare skin of her inner thighs against me, but not her pussy, as she is still wearing panties. Her massage is just her rubbing oil around on my back, upper arms and neck. Feels good, but nothing special. Her English is very, very good. Fully conversant, to the point that I can't place her accent - and usually I am "deadly" at that. It is practically one of my hobbies. I ask if she is Chinese. "No, Thai." ... "Oh wow. I would never have gotten that from your voice. From Bangkok?" ... "Yes." Turns out he has been in Canada for 10 years (makes sense) and claims to have worked at New Star for just 3 weeks. She asks if I have been here before, I tell her, "Yes, twice before, but back in September." (I should have told her, I am in here all the time, and I don't overpay! [:LOL:] ) I start turning over after a few minutes. "You don't want massage?" ... "No. I'm good." I get up so that I am sitting on the side of the bed. She has her feet on the floor now and is standing between my legs. Looking at her face close-up, she is highly and meticulously made-up... such that she is actually "shiny." Not a total "butter face," but enough that you can just tell that she is not going to want you to fuck up her make-up, [:ROFLMAO:] and sure enough, she doesn't kiss. She turns her head at all opportunities. She is pretty though, and she does, however, kiss (and tongue) my ear repeatedly, and is okay with me doing the same. I get my hands on her ass, and it feels amazing, toned, pulling her into me. Her body is pretty top-notch by 40-something AMP standards. She asks, "You want to do blow-job no condom?" ... "Sure." ... "Okay, it is 100." ... So, that is a bit disappointing. I think market rates are $40, maybe $60 for a somewhat premium (by AMP standards) lady. Then she asks, "You want suck my boobs or my pussy?" ... "Okay, sure." ...."Which one?" ... I am thinking WTF? "Pussy," I say... "Okay 180 then." At this point, I am thinking, Okay we have to get this sorted out. "What is the total then? 200 + 180? For blow-job without condom, suck your pussy and sex?" ... "Yes." ... I knew I only brought $320 with me, thinking that would be plenty. I tell her I only have $320. " ... "Oh, that is o.k. You can pay by machine." ... "Okay. Let's do it at the end" (for reference, I am showing her the bills and my wallet with cards in it, and I am naked at this point with a rock-hard dick) ... "Uh... can I get you to pay first. Just this first time. Then I will trust you." At this point, two things are going through my head: (1) I am going to try and preserve this, and have the best, hottest, experience I can today, even if I have to overpay a bit; and (2) The idea that there would EVER be a "next time" for this nonsense is fucking laughable. Quite the opposite. This is a "one time" experience, and about 5,000+ of my perb brothers are going to read and have access to exactly what happened here for YEARS to come. Upsell like this at your own peril, ladies. We have our own network on the guy's side. She calls for Annie to come into the room with a portable payment machine (I am not even joking, I wish I was), and I - with a towel half falling off my waist and a hard-on, put another $60 on my card as Annie hands me the machine. Fortunately, Annie is cool, and I am not really shy. This is bullshit though. Treating a good customer like me in this way... deserves calling out like this. Anyway, Annie, goes away and we get back to work. In fairness, "Selena" did "come alive" a fair bit more at this point (and why not, with $180 tip!). Still no kissing, but she is quite passionate , tonguing and biting my ear, touching my nipples and letting me pull her into me (as I am sitting on the bed) as my dick pushes against her flat stomach. She takes her skin-tight black dress of, revealing nice pair of round implant boobies - "C" cup - which are quite soft and nice to touch - and white panties, which she also removes. I can see that she has lot of tattoos. More on that later. She drops to a squat and bedside and takes my dick in her mouth. She is legitimately very, very skilled in sucking dick. Full eye contact. Excellent push-pull with the mouth while simultaneously twisting with one hand. I actually change positions after a couple of minutes and lay down on the bed to give myself a temporary break from her good technique. I DEFINITELY don't want to bust early here. I am going to get my money's worth in pounding her snatch! She gets up on the bed, her head toward my feet, both of her knees on my left side, and she sucks me like that for awhile. I can touch her boobs and pussy all I want as she is doing that. In touching her pussy she says, "Just play outside, okay? Play on the outside of my pussy." Okay no problem. She then swings her leg over me and I finally get the full back-view of her luscious brown Thai snatch (that I am paying $80 to suck on [:LOL:] ). We are in a 69, and I feast on her pussy like that She tasted clean and fresh, and it was pretty heavenly, to be honest. Small, tight little brown bum, with a smooth, shaved brown pussy between her legs, as she is working my bare dick with her mouth in a very skilled way. I am sucking on her clit and her lips, working her 'button" with my tongue and even getting my tongue inside a bit. She is good with all of that. As she is sucking me, I actually start to think, okay I need to break this off again or I am going to bust. I move to stand up, and she gets off me. "You want fuck now?" ... "Yes," ... She gets the condom she had put on the bed earlier and puts it on. She only gets it onto the head, and then asks me to help her, as she has long fingernails and "I don't want to hurt you." (I have a rather thick dick, and it can be hard sometime to get the condom to roll off the head onto the shaft, so I just do that myself). She asks what position I want, and I just gently push her onto her back on the bed, as she is already between my legs with her back to the bed. Now I can see her tattoos clearly. She has a large flower on her upper right leg, and then some kind of design (floral, I think) going across her lower stomach/pubic region, around her belly button, something on her lower left arm, and others. Her luscious brown "outtie" pussy lips look fantastic. Nice thick brown lips. Pretty tight tummy, and overall body, or a roughly 40 year old. Way up in the upper range of good bodies by AMP standards. Her boobs also look nice in this position, as I push my dick into her. Wide areola, with protruding nipples that are soft and pliable.... i.e. the nipples always fold over as you touch them, not hard pencil erasers. She takes a good pounding. I wasn't going to be rough, but I was going to find out how much she likes to fuck hard, and on a positive note, she can take it hard and long, and she likes it. [(y)] No question in my mind. I start out by cupping her boobs as I pump her, but once we get going I hold her hips and butt - pulling her closer to the edge of the bed - and really lay into her. No problems with her holding back at all, she is liking it. I turn her on her side, me still standing at bed side, and I fuck her in that "fetal" position. I try to turn her the next "quarter-turn" over (to her stomach), but we lose the penetration. She stands up and I enter her doggy from behind. Initially it almost slides into (or at least toward) her asshole, and she says "no" and directs it in herself. From this position, I lock my hands onto her hips and pound her hard. In my head I am thinking, "It is time to get my money's worth here!" [:LOL:] Fortunately, she is actually into it. I move my hands to her shoulders and pull her in hard as I pound. She is vocalizing now. Then I pull her in, and push her down into the bed with my body weight, but she is with me all the way. She can fuck. I give her credit for that. She is telling me now, "You so strong." I tell her I want her up on her knees on top of the bed, and she does that. I get up behind her on my knees and enter in doggy... again she does the "no" thing with her ass, even though I am not trying to do that, it is just that her body geometry is lower than mine. Once we get going I resume pounding hard. I am starting to drip sweat, so I grab the towel that is partially under her, and towel off my face. I am thinking about getting up in the "full porno" position (up on my feet in doggie, up on top of the bed) but right at that moment she starts to drop forward into "lazy doggie" (she is on her stomach) as I ride her butt. This is nice though. In this position, I feel that I am able to get my legs wide apart and really "drop bombs" on her from behind, "Unh.. Uhn.. Uhn.." I interlock fingers with her on one hand, and kiss her shoulders and the back off her head. I don't really like to cum in condoms, although I could have done it here. I break off... and I am ready for her to just jack me off. She gets up and I lay on my back. However, she must have been thinking that I wanted her to get on top though, so I think, "Great idea. Come on up. I can go for a long time with condoms, it is excellent BBBJ technique that gets me in trouble early sometimes (see my Mansion One "Sandy" review). She gets on and rides cowgirl. Now she is really dropping "bombs" on me, and I help her by boosting her up with my hands, and then pulling her down. Smack! She is a good fucker, and can really take it. I was starting to see some involuntary orgasmic signs (shuddering), but I have enough experience with women to know that she didn't "get there," but she was enjoying the hardness of it all. No doubt about that. Maybe that is the secret with her. Just pay for the fucking, skip the extras? Unlike many... she can fuck hard. I was also sometimes cupping her tits with both hands as she rides. Nice view. A good long pound session all-round. When I start to feel like I could cum again, I ask her to get off and to jack me to conclusion. She gets her oil bottle, stands at bedside, and pours a ton of that stuff on my dick. Her hand-job technique is good. She will work it with both hands at the same time, and then cup and rub my balls with one hand while jacking with the other. I tell her, "You can touch me here," but she says "no ass." She lets me keep my hand wedged between her legs as she stands at bedside, feeling her wet pussy against the side of my hand. My legs start to shake a bit... this goes on for another minute or two ... more shaking.... and then it shoots ... Shhhooooo..... Another "healthy living" eruption shoots straight up, getting a reaction from her. "Wow. You shoot so much.... just like firework..... you so strong." She also says, "finally." Not really in a bitchy way but.... uhhh.... not the best comment. She tells me, "I think one hour not enough for you. You could fuck for one hour and half." True. I've heard this before. I practically pride myself on it. I gave her a long hard pound-down though, it felt good inside her and, on that basis, it was a good experience. Her approach to the money stuff was just inexcusable though. She says, "You take a rest. I use the shower." ... I am pretty spent, and just lay there, listening to the shower run. She is out in a couple of minutes and then says, "You shower now." She comes to peak through the shower curtain and says "goodbye" with a smile and goes out. That was the last I saw of her. I towel off and start getting dressed. There is a knock at the door. It's Annie. "Everything okay? Service good?" ... "Yah, the service was good. It is just way overpriced. 180 on top of 200? That is ridiculous. At her age, and her looks. That is just way too much. At that rate, I could get a lot more than that elsewhere." I normally don't throw people under the bus like that, but this is an exception. Annie just looks at me with a kind of uncertainty/"oops" look. "Oh..... so sorry. I didn't know. We have other girls that you may like better." I just tell her, "Yah, no. It's not your fault. She is just way overcharging. I will come back and see other girls, but I would never consider repeating with her." Recommend: Well... my comments to Annie really say it all.... it was a good experience.... however. Her BBBJ is truly excellent, and she can fuck like someone that actually likes to fuck a guy that will pound her long and hard. That was all really good... but that money thing.... upselling me to 3 times the going rate for tips (the competition are all $220/hr. A generous tip would be $60. So $280. This was $380) .... not "trusting" me.... bringing Annie into the fucking room while I am naked with a hard-on..... are you fucking kidding me? No thanks. If she could get her shit sorted out, and her rates standardized with reality, she could be a real "star" provider and have tons of regulars, even without kissing. But the way it was for me today: HARD PASS! Click to expand... Sounds like a real "bargoon" [eddie shack.jpg]

Saw Celine / Seline last week at New Star. In a sea of aunties and 5s, it was refreshing to see her: blond hair, spinner bod, man made Cs and sexy Thai look. I have seen her a few times at Tokyo spa in Burnaby so I expected the upsell. But damn I love her massage! Starts with usual chit chat when she walks in, gets you on your stomach while she does a light oil massage but several mins in, she starts to rub the groin area, butt, and stroking junior. Before I know it, I'm on all 4s with butt in the air. I could have easily popped then but I knew I wanted her pussy badddd. Yup, upsell was $100 for bbbj but you have to know that you get full fuck-me-eye-contact, total slobbering BBLS and BBBJ. Celine is better than the $40-50 upsell gals so I accept paying more. Hey, I've been to Swan Lake enough times to know the diff. [;)]Mirrors in the room are awesome. Could have popped on the BBBJ but I held out. Rubber came on, and stayed in one position: standing mish. Pounded her like I wanted every drop to count! Did I mention the mirrors? fucking love staring at her gorgeous face and bod (shaved but dark complexion pussy) and looking at the mirrors - who's that fucking lucky guy pounding that Thai beauty - oh yeah, that's me! Felt like I spent half my 30 mins thrusting away. After I unloaded, Celine mentioned that I have quite a bit of stamina as most guys blow only a few mins in. lol. No idea if that's true but I walked out of there like a stallion! $140/30 mins + 100. She says she works Wed & Sun at New Star and Thurs at Toyko.

I’ll vouch for Lisa. Yes she’s Thai, in her early/mid 40s and not as “hot” as Selene, but she IS a spintastic good time. Not ugly by any means, just not pornstar hot, if you catch my drift. Her body is incredible! I’ve seen her for years now, she’s incredibly experienced and can take a pounding and a half! She doesn’t have big C’s but does have manmade bigger B’s. Perfect English as well.

muffintime said: Saw Celine / Seline last week at New Star. In a sea of aunties and 5s, it was refreshing to see her: blond hair, spinner bod, man made Cs and sexy Thai look. I have seen her a few times at Tokyo spa in Burnaby so I expected the upsell. But damn I love her massage! Starts with usual chit chat when she walks in, gets you on your stomach while she does a light oil massage but several mins in, she starts to rub the groin area, butt, and stroking junior. Before I know it, I'm on all 4s with butt in the air. I could have easily popped then but I knew I wanted her pussy badddd. Yup, upsell was $100 for bbbj but you have to know that you get full fuck-me-eye-contact, total slobbering BBLS and BBBJ. Celine is better than the $40-50 upsell gals so I accept paying more. Hey, I've been to Swan Lake enough times to know the diff. [;)]Mirrors in the room are awesome. Could have popped on the BBBJ but I held out. Rubber came on, and stayed in one position: standing mish. Pounded her like I wanted every drop to count! Did I mention the mirrors? fucking love staring at her gorgeous face and bod (shaved but dark complexion pussy) and looking at the mirrors - who's that fucking lucky guy pounding that Thai beauty - oh yeah, that's me! Felt like I spent half my 30 mins thrusting away. After I unloaded, Celine mentioned that I have quite a bit of stamina as most guys blow only a few mins in. lol. No idea if that's true but I walked out of there like a stallion! $140/30 mins + 100. She says she works Wed & Sun at New Star and Thurs at Toyko. Click to expand... Finally got to see her last month at Tokyo spa and totally agree with what the op said ! Ok she’s up charging for the bbbj and everything else, but she’s a younger Thai spinner who can take a pounding for the entire session if you want. Right now as far as younger Asian sp’s are concerned, she’s the only 1 in this category !